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splatt wrote: @Dan, I have some PoleCats where the tail is a bit tiny. I remember you saying there is exception or rule addition to the Polecat where I can add some height to the vertical stab. Can you detail that again ? something about adding another 3/16" of height ?

The PoleCats I have, I think are from Bruce and the wing has 6 hold down bolts. 2 big 1/4x20 bolts right in the middle , 4 10x24's at the front and back and has a 1.5 spinner
Jessie, all modifications made to existing designs need to go back through the review process. Having said that, I thought someone was granted approval of the polecat with a modified fin. I believe it was the guys in Canada. Perhaps Roy or Randy Smith would know. Actually Jim Allen would know as well.

Just a quick note as to why the fin is what it is on the original Polecat/Loki from Bruce. When I carved the plug for the fuselage we didn't have plans for a composite tail. I had originally designed the airplane to use a Lyle wing with wood tails. Lyle being the salesman that he is, kept raising the price for the wings, which drove me to find a different solution. I bought an El Bandito from Bruce which used his Sweet Pea wing. The El Bandito was designed by Jarett Cangie (SP). It was the first airplane I saw with an engine cover similar to what is common today. The airplane was fast, but a little tricky to take off. I decided to update my Polecat plug to use this wing and steal Jarett's cowl concept. Well somewhere along the way Bruce sent me a composite stab which had a much wider chord at the root and was much shorter than what I originally carved the fuselage for. So... I modified the plug to fit. In doing so I had to change the shape of the fin. I needed to make the base much wider to accommodate the short fat stab. Me in my infinite wisdom thought that AREA is what governed stability. So I chopped off the top of my existing fin based on how much area I needed to add to the base to match the new stab. In the end this wasn't too smart. Jim Allen and I had many discussions about this and he was confident that due to the turtle deck the height of the fin is what granted stability. STOOPID, on my part. Fast forward a little, Jerry Small developed the removable stabs and designed the cross over bar that everyone is using (Dub Jett made the idea come to life, as Dub was the one that did the work to make the aluminum cross over a reality) and the fuselage plug was updated again. I loved the polecat, but in thin air and the small surfaces I was told it was a handful. When I made the LOKI for Bruce I added about 3/8" of height to the fin and some more area to the leading edge. I flew the LOKI for many years and never had any issues, I never had any issues with the polecat either but others did and complained about the take offs. So be it. More info than you wanted but... I am sure someone will comment on the taller fin and it's effect as well as any approval that may have been granted. I have no clue what size fin is present on the SuperCat. All the mods to the Polecat that changed it to the SuperCat were done by Steve Taylor.

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RB wrote:Got this bad boy in the mail a week ago. :D

Bolt on tail Vortex. My boys Dan Kane and Tom Scott made the tail mold happen for the Mr Vortex. True friends. 8)
TWO THUMBS UP!!! Nice.

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vonderhey wrote:Super Shark. Made in USA
Made in the USA!!! Love it. Looks freakin awesome as usual!

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Randy, another piece of artwork by your dad (as expected)

Lee, that plane is just sick!! I get dizzy just thinking about masking/painting those numbers within the checks. Amazing work
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Kurt Bozarth wrote:Here’s a Miss Ashley I’m almost done with.

Kurt

Very Nice. Love the stripes on the fuselage, I had a Form 1 painted similarly, stripes on the tail were reversed. Attached an old Polecat, I built and painted for Jerry Elert, with the same scheme I used on my F1, different colors though.

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While searching for the previous picture, I found some others... Not current but airplanes I built and/or painted none the less.
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The original Lightening scheme hand masked!
The original Lightening scheme hand masked!
Mario
Mario
Gary Freeman Sr. (Take off story here somewhere)
Gary Freeman Sr. (Take off story here somewhere)
Tim Lime (back when he flew airplanes!)
Tim Lime (back when he flew airplanes!)
Matias
Matias
yellowPCAT.jpg
Sold this airplane to Dave Latsha (Nicole picked the colors)
Sold this airplane to Dave Latsha (Nicole picked the colors)
Doug Kilebrew
Doug Kilebrew
Matt Fehling
Matt Fehling
Dub Jett
Dub Jett
Mike Helsel
Mike Helsel
My favorite picture of the prototype Shoestring from Horizon.
My favorite picture of the prototype Shoestring from Horizon.
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More old picts... All of these were painted by Bruce DeChastel in the mold.
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First belonged to Dennis, now belongs to KB (AKA F-16 pilot)
First belonged to Dennis, now belongs to KB (AKA F-16 pilot)
First belonged to Mark Parker, now belongs to KB as well.
First belonged to Mark Parker, now belongs to KB as well.
First Loki's produced Gary Jr's and Mine sitting on the runway.
First Loki's produced Gary Jr's and Mine sitting on the runway.
Another Mario airplane... Somehow I built this airplane and gave him a Rossi .15 for his motor collection too.
Another Mario airplane... Somehow I built this airplane and gave him a Rossi .15 for his motor collection too.
Travis, I never build stuff for him anymore. ;)
Travis, I never build stuff for him anymore. ;)
Tom Scott's HurriKane
Tom Scott's HurriKane
My HurriKane, sold to Jay Cappis
My HurriKane, sold to Jay Cappis
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Dan,

How did your planes end up on my living room floor?

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Dan your designs have been very creative over the years. Here are a couple of mine:
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Original Sidewinder
Original Sidewinder
Another Sidewinder
Another Sidewinder
My favorite F1
My favorite F1
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More old Picts!!
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The original HurriKane next to the one and only Dodger.
The original HurriKane next to the one and only Dodger.
Ed Spiker and Joe Dodd holding my Miss Foxy Lady design.  Ask Grunk about Joe’s airplane sometime!
Ed Spiker and Joe Dodd holding my Miss Foxy Lady design. Ask Grunk about Joe’s airplane sometime!
Minnow built by Jimmy sent to me ready for paint.
Minnow built by Jimmy sent to me ready for paint.
Conventional tail HurriKane designed at the same time as the Dodger.
Conventional tail HurriKane designed at the same time as the Dodger.
My Miss Foxy Lady with Billy J
My Miss Foxy Lady with Billy J
Me and my dad in 87.
Me and my dad in 87.
Rough river.  The down wind take off in the fly off resulted in a broken Folkerts!
Rough river. The down wind take off in the fly off resulted in a broken Folkerts!
Rossi powered HurriKane.
Rossi powered HurriKane.
Wayne in his younger days.   And Bob Brown to the left.
Wayne in his younger days. And Bob Brown to the left.
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Kurt Bozarth wrote:Dan,

How did your planes end up on my living room floor?

Kurt
Not mine just assembled them! Lol. And they were only $50 so how could you pass it up! ;)

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MLH wrote:Dan your designs have been very creative over the years. Here are a couple of mine:
Always loved your F1!! It’s a shame you let Dub fly it in the last blast.

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DK,
So many great old pictures...thanks for posting

I have a question on painting this scheme. Are you painting the silver first then covering most with blue leaving just the pinstripes? I keep looking at it trying to figure out the order of masking/painting.

And yes MH, that Toni of yours was my favorite too!!!
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Here’s my latest trying to get done for Deland. Just painted fuse about 2 hours ago. Wing design thanks to Dan Kane too
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cbk07 wrote:DK,


I have a question on painting this scheme. Are you painting the silver first then covering most with blue leaving just the pinstripes? I keep looking at it trying to figure out the order of masking/painting.
This was painted in the mold. So silver/grey may have been last.

If I was painting this I would paint silver first. Mask the pin stripe stuff. Then paint white. Mask the entire plane then paint trim. At least that is how I have painted mine outside the mold. However mine were easy because I used white as my pin stripe color which was also the base for everything else.

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