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Outrageous EF1 by The World Models - Introduction

Introduction of the Newest Version of the Outrageous EF1 by The World Models in Solid White

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This is an outrageous pink Outrageous by Greg Doe. It is the new model. In fact, the one in the video.

Greg completely stripped the ToughLon and used MonoKote. It is lighter with the MonoKote.
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ToughLon has a bad reputation mainly because it does not come with the instructions in the kit and people damage it with too much heat. I have an instruction/warning sheet I put in planes that I ship and I will attach it here.

ToughLon is heavier than a lot of coverings because it has an extra layer of pigment to block transparent areas. So you can save some weight by stripping and recovering.
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I have new fiberglass hatches in progress for both the Outrageous and the Scarlet Screamer and that should allow further weight savings.

Greg has flown the new Outrageous and seems very happy with it.

With the new fully sheeted wings, you should not break any more wings in the turns.
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What about the Estrellita ARF, when is it coming out. The prototype Mike H. won Winterfest with a couple of years ago looked good.
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If people will support AirBorne Models and buy up the current EF1 inventory, it is much more likely to happen.

AirBorne Models and The World Models have been great friends to the pylon racing community. First their T-34 Mentor racing was growing, then we got Club 40 really honking, and now they have the excellent Spitfire 40 and the P-51D Strega 40 models for Warbird Racing.

They really need your support. They have a great line of Sport and Electric planes also. The newer stuff is really good and I can advise on most of the models either from personal experience or by talking to Fai Chan.

If you have ANY questions about a model you are interested in buying, CALL Fai Chan at 925-371-0922 and get the info you need. Leave a message as he is often on the phone or busy.

I should have the Estrellita EF1 and Shark EF1 kits fully ready in June with instructions and videos on building. The fuselage is very easy to build. There will be an option for a foam core wing or a built-up wing.

I'm taking a break to finish some videos this morning, as it is rainy here and I can't do any priming or painting. Plus I'm a little tired from pushing so hard on the EF1 molds. The Scarlet Screamer EF1 video will be online soon.
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I would prefer to support World Models by purchasing an Estrellita ARF rather than another Scarlet Screamer... They should be selling sufficient Spitfires and T-34's as well as other models to allow them to bring the Estrellita to market without expecting the EF-1 racing community to run them out of stock of the Scarlet Screamers and Outrageous kits...
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ronin4740 wrote:I would prefer to support World Models by purchasing an Estrellita ARF rather than another Scarlet Screamer... They should be selling sufficient Spitfires and T-34's as well as other models to allow them to bring the Estrellita to market without expecting the EF-1 racing community to run them out of stock of the Scarlet Screamers and Outrageous kits...
Ok I will provide some insight, probably more than I should, but it is best when people ask these kinds of questions to clear the air.

I do not work for AirBorne Models. However, I do have a working relationship with them. I have the AirBorne Models Showcase and the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/AirBorneModelsShowcase/. I do get special deals because I do things like getting the arrangements in process for the Outrageous and the Scarlet Screamer happening so that those models were brought to market. I worked with them on the solid color Sky Raider Mach II and LA Racer 40 ARF kits for http://Club40Racing.com. They constantly work to improve their models and things like the fully sheeted wings on the Strega 40 planes were my input. The latest Spitfires were supposed to have fully sheeted wings, but in the last production the factory missed that instruction.

AirBorne Models is the distributor for The World Models and The Wings Maker. Those planes come from one factory.

Since Hobbico declared bankruptcy in January 2018 and has been bought by Horizon Hobby, it should be obvious that even the largest companies providing model airplanes are hurting. TWM is almost exclusively R/C airplanes. Like it or not, but the airplane market has been shrinking while the quad/drone market is growing. FPV quads are a lot of fun. The view from "inside the cockpit" is exciting for many people just as flying full scale airplanes is a whole different ball game than flying a model airplane. I did not fully understand stalls, spins, rolls, and rudder turns until I did them in full scale planes from 1995-2000. Coming back to R/C in 2000 I switched from Mode 1 to Mode 2. I was a much better R/C pilot with the full scale experience. The point is that people get a much different feeling flying FPV than they do Line Of Sight (LOS). The recent article in Model Aviation about FPV Wing Racing Association shows how exciting other forms of R/C can be.

So the airplane market is shrinking as people spend their money other places.

After my October 2009 article "Pylon Racing for Everyone" in Model Aviation, Club 40 boomed. But engine problems in 2012 and 2013 have almost killed it. I wrote a new article "Sport Pylon Racing at the 2018 NATS" appearing in the June Model Aviation that may help Club 40 and other sport racing. The boom in Club 40 really helped AirBorne and The World Models to weather the storm at that time.

The World Models has had financial challenges. Like I said, the Chinese Dollar situation hs made it tough on them.

AirBorne does not have to sell out of Outrageous and Scarlet Screamers, but they need to see activity in their EF1 market to pursue tooling up for production of more EF1 planes.

So if you help me help them, you will benefit from new and better planes.

Both AirBorne Models and The World Models have been great friends to the sport pylon racing community.

If you help me help the sport racing community, we will all benefit.

I'm doing the Estrellita / Shark molds and they have been a TON of work. They are almost ready. If I had not been in bad health last year, you would have had them. Right now my health is good and improving every day. And I bust my ass every day too promote pylon racing in many different forms.

I may not make any money off of the Estrellita / Shark parts and kits. But I'm at least trying to provide a stop gap solution.

Thanks for your support.

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Don,

I'm sure we all appreciate the explanation but it still seems to me to be asking a lot. The reason they still have inventory of EF1 planes is probably two fold:

1. People had bad experiences with the original kits - wings folding, poor flying, etc... - and have moved on to other ARFs or to building their own models.

2. EF1 is unfortunately not growing as a class. Actually I feel like no three pole pylon class is growing but there are still more glow guys buying 426 and 422 airplanes than there are electric guys buying EF1 planes

If TWM/AIrborne are not willing to release another EF1 unless they see an increase in their existing EF1 model sales then I doubt we'll ever see them release the Estrellita... It's a circular logic loop - we must see increases in EF1 sales of the models we have in order to release a new model but we wont' see an increase in EF1 sales unless we release a new model...

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Chris,

If you had a bad experience with the Outrageous flying or the Scarlet Screamer flying, then it was your thumbs and not the plane.

Many people I know rate the following as the top 3 choices in order of flying habits:

1) Estrellita / Shark
2) Outrageous / Scarlet Screamer
3) Proud Bird

But of the above, all are competitive and can win.

I've put a LOT of work into the fiberglass parts for the Estrellita and Shark, and not as much into the Proud Bird. Molds for all should be ready in a week or two max.

I'm also bringing out the Miss Cosmic Wind EF1 and will have fiberglass parts for the Outrageous and Scarlet Screamer.

I may make very little if any money from the work. But I'll have airplanes if nothing else. Same reason I bought the Mako Shark Q40 molds (formerly known as the Shark based on the Anequim Project) I don't expect to be producing Q40's for sale, but I know I can build composites that will serve my needs for years. I built enough of Jerry Small's Swee' Pea Q40 with the wing by Norm Johnson to know that I can produce planes that will hold up to Q40 speeds.

You're right, EF1 has not been on a growth path lately. But there is a lot more of it going on than many NMPRA members are even aware of if they don't visit social media other than this forum. There is more 2 pole EF1 racing happening than many know about.

3 Pole pylon racing started growing again after Club 40 started a boom in 2008-2010. Guys like Tim Sparks, Clint Seyer, Gary Fisher, Bob Petrinec, and a number of guys have made the jump from 2 pole to 3 pole.

Everyone needs to stay positive about EF1.

Personally I think that http://ClubWingman.com is the place to start racing. Uses the EF1 propulsion system except for the prop and they fly great. People could start there, then learn the tricky takeoffs with EF1 torque rollers. Greg Doe loves his, and I have sent one to Jim Allen in a trade. He thinks he's going to have fun with it. In fact I spoke to him today and he told me they are having 2 pole EF1 races once a month at a field 4 miles from his house and he's having fun on the 2 pole course with a lot of racing newcomers in a relaxed format.

I do have MANY projects in process. The EF1 stuff is coming, but I'll feel lucky if I sell 10 sets of parts for the Estrellita / Shark.

I email, message, talk to and other communications with pylon people in all different formats all over the world. So I have a pretty large view of the complete pylon ecosystem. Like the other day I was chatting with Christopher Callow at 5 am in the morning on Facebook. We talked about what he is doing and working on and other R/C interests. I got a lot of insight into MB engines, and DKT to an extent.

I think if more people would pick up the phone and call me, they might actually enjoy a chat. Mobile/text 704-968-2881 ... it's a good idea to text about calling before doing so.

I write a lot, but my personality doesn't necessarily come through in postings. In posting I try to present "Just the facts" most of the time.

I don't have the best camera presence, but many people watch my videos anyway. So I feel like I am making a difference, and hopefully for the better that the worse.

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This is the "plug" for the fiberglass version of an Outrageous hatch.

The latch was removed and the area filled. The structure under the hatch was reinforced to make sure it holds the shape while the mold is being made. It was filled, sanded, and primed.

It will get painted on Saturday and mold making will begin on Sunday.

The advantage of a fiberglass hatch will be weight. Without the pilot platform, a little weight will be able to be saved.
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Thanks to Greg Doe, I now have wheelpants molds for the Outrageous.

These are very nice and I have a set of wheelpants that were produced in them.

You will not have to use the dorky metal straps, and the indentions match the landing gear.

I believe you will be able to use the same axles that are used on the Proud Bird. Great Planes Low Profile Landing Gear Axles 4mm (2) ... I will try them this week and I may order a bunch so that I can ship axles with the wheelpants.
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Actually... You should be able use the axles from the shoestring. As this is where we started. Dub Jett and Jerry Small designed these originally. Horizon used their design to make the parts for the shoestring. The same axle was sold by Super T for a couple of years. The wheel pants where originally designed for these axles as were all of the airplanes Jerry and I designed.

Just some background info.

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While I have shifted most of my posting activity to Facebook and have a new page there currently called The Independent AMA and NMPRA Pylon Racing Page and an EF1 page at EF1 Pylon Racing, I'm still going to post what I consider useful info to the NMPRA forums.

I finally have the shop back in full fiberglass production mode. Not quite there yet for composite work yet, but in a week or two.

I now have male molds made from Greg Doe's female molds for Outrageous EF1 wheel pants.

I will be making more female molds over the next week or two so I can have good wheel pants on my Outrageous EF1 for the OJA race.

I'm going to try making Jim Katz style 3 part molds that makes joining the halves easier.

The molds are back on the way to Greg so he can adapt them to the Estrellita landing gear.

There was a stat on the local news last night that is partially what has been a major hindrance to me on getting molds made. We have only had three clear weekends here this year and only 5 clear weekends since September.

Not being able to spray PartAll PVA on things has had a big impact on me completing projects. Hopefully the rain will hold off for a while.

Here is a photo of the untrimmed and prepped Outrageous EF1 wheel pants male molds.
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kane wrote:Actually... You should be able use the axles from the shoestring. As this is where we started. Dub Jett and Jerry Small designed these originally. Horizon used their design to make the parts for the shoestring. The same axle was sold by Super T for a couple of years. The wheel pants where originally designed for these axles as were all of the airplanes Jerry and I designed.

Just some background info.

DK
Thanks Dan.

The link to the axles is https://www.horizonhobby.com/landing-ge ... -efl420511

The link to the landing gear with the axles is https://www.horizonhobby.com/20mm-landi ... -efl420504

I need more axles and may order some of the landing gear with the axles if I can use them on other planes.
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