Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
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Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
I am getting push back from the club this year on hosting Tangerine. The main reason being is we shut the field down for 3 days and didn’t make any money. There were several factors involved for the negative return (equipment rental cost, no food for sale, etc).
If there is any chance for me to sway the board in considering hosting the event this year, I will need a few things.
First and foremost, I need a commitment from each of you to preregister. Please only do so if you are fairly certain you will make it. If you are on the fence consider this, if we don’t have tangerine this year, we may never have it again and that would only leave one other field in Florida to host a race. If you love pylon and want to see it continue, please consider making this race. Also, please understand that to show a good positive return we will be selling food, raffle tickets for prizes, and doing a 50/50. Please support each of these as much as you can if this race happens. I will be looking at other options for helping with income for the race.
I am not looking for any negative feedback on this. I am just doing everything I can to see this legacy continue and persuade the club to hosting this event. We used to race 10 out of 12 months a year with 4-5 clubs hosting. We are down to 2 and I would hate to lose one of those 2.
The tentative schedule would be Dec 4th and 5th.
4th - 424/Ef1 and 426
5th - 424/Ef1 and 422
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Again, please reply to this post ASAP if you plan to come. If we don’t see a good number of entries quickly this doesn’t have a chance of happening.
v/r
Gary Jr.
1. Lee Vonderhey
2. Mike Helsel
3. Rocket Ray
4. Trey Witte
5. Lloyd Burnham
6. Lonnie Finch
7. Terry Frazer
8. Dan Kane
9. Bob Brogdon
10. Tom Scott
11. Robert Vess
12.John McDermott
13. Craig Korsen
14. Doug Killebrew
15. Dean Stone
16. Joe Linsangan
17. Steve Baker
18. Randy Bridge
19. Matt Fehling
20. Tim Yousey
21. Dub Jett
22. Bill Johanson
23. Gary Freeman Jr
24. Gary Freeman Sr
25. Brody Freeman
26. Mario Travieso
27. Ray Colleto
28. Jim Lyons
29. Gino Delponte
30. AJ Hemken
31. Leo Nordell
32. Ola Nordell
33. Craig Grunkmeyer
34. Dennis Cranfil
35. Jason Oliver
36. Richard Oliver
37. AJ Seaholm
If there is any chance for me to sway the board in considering hosting the event this year, I will need a few things.
First and foremost, I need a commitment from each of you to preregister. Please only do so if you are fairly certain you will make it. If you are on the fence consider this, if we don’t have tangerine this year, we may never have it again and that would only leave one other field in Florida to host a race. If you love pylon and want to see it continue, please consider making this race. Also, please understand that to show a good positive return we will be selling food, raffle tickets for prizes, and doing a 50/50. Please support each of these as much as you can if this race happens. I will be looking at other options for helping with income for the race.
I am not looking for any negative feedback on this. I am just doing everything I can to see this legacy continue and persuade the club to hosting this event. We used to race 10 out of 12 months a year with 4-5 clubs hosting. We are down to 2 and I would hate to lose one of those 2.
The tentative schedule would be Dec 4th and 5th.
4th - 424/Ef1 and 426
5th - 424/Ef1 and 422
CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
Again, please reply to this post ASAP if you plan to come. If we don’t see a good number of entries quickly this doesn’t have a chance of happening.
v/r
Gary Jr.
1. Lee Vonderhey
2. Mike Helsel
3. Rocket Ray
4. Trey Witte
5. Lloyd Burnham
6. Lonnie Finch
7. Terry Frazer
8. Dan Kane
9. Bob Brogdon
10. Tom Scott
11. Robert Vess
12.John McDermott
13. Craig Korsen
14. Doug Killebrew
15. Dean Stone
16. Joe Linsangan
17. Steve Baker
18. Randy Bridge
19. Matt Fehling
20. Tim Yousey
21. Dub Jett
22. Bill Johanson
23. Gary Freeman Jr
24. Gary Freeman Sr
25. Brody Freeman
26. Mario Travieso
27. Ray Colleto
28. Jim Lyons
29. Gino Delponte
30. AJ Hemken
31. Leo Nordell
32. Ola Nordell
33. Craig Grunkmeyer
34. Dennis Cranfil
35. Jason Oliver
36. Richard Oliver
37. AJ Seaholm
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Scotty & "M" will be there - 422/426/424 (if enuf 
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Gary is absolutely correct
,,, Contestant attendance is the critical path!!!
I feel, Florida racing is limited, today, because of National Calendar conflicts, Summer Heat
, and a floating date Champ Race
!
When we took over SEMPRA,, the pilot per day/per class fee was $3.50, that changed immediately to $5.00 and remains.
In my early pylon days,,, in SoCal, attendance was always good as were club profits,, today, in Florida, I am convinced,, fewer high attendance events will be successful! When DeLand hosted an all Q-40 event the attendance was overwhelming and the club delighted!
If we consider,,, with sitting on a metal chair for two days, a burger, chips, soda, and bottled water,, as compensation, and loosing the field for three days,,,, The Club president, clearly, needs as much leverage as possible to motivate the membership to support this 60+ year institution, or any event!
In our country,,, wealth is the primary motivator, and that, for Pylon, translates to attendance!!
That said,,, I was so disappointed when the Sautee'd Onions were dropped from the Snack Shack menu
, then the whole food deal ceased, so it's return is very positive!!! And yes,,,, we MUST support that too,,,,, even if no onions
!!!!
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I feel, Florida racing is limited, today, because of National Calendar conflicts, Summer Heat


When we took over SEMPRA,, the pilot per day/per class fee was $3.50, that changed immediately to $5.00 and remains.
In my early pylon days,,, in SoCal, attendance was always good as were club profits,, today, in Florida, I am convinced,, fewer high attendance events will be successful! When DeLand hosted an all Q-40 event the attendance was overwhelming and the club delighted!



If we consider,,, with sitting on a metal chair for two days, a burger, chips, soda, and bottled water,, as compensation, and loosing the field for three days,,,, The Club president, clearly, needs as much leverage as possible to motivate the membership to support this 60+ year institution, or any event!
In our country,,, wealth is the primary motivator, and that, for Pylon, translates to attendance!!
That said,,, I was so disappointed when the Sautee'd Onions were dropped from the Snack Shack menu




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Re: Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
Mike Helsel 426, 422 Maybe EF1
Re: Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
I’m in. Last year was a pretty good turnout of memory serves me.
And I said, here am I send me.
Re: Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
I will be there.
424/EF1/426/422
Trey
424/EF1/426/422
Trey
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426 422 Lloyd
Nepro is in the same sinking ship. We are down to 1 club willing to host a race. We did a 1 day event in August 424 426 Q500, where NEPRO donated the fuel, 100% of the entry fees, trophies and a free cookout at night. Club netted $600. It did guarantee us a date for next year.
Nepro is in the same sinking ship. We are down to 1 club willing to host a race. We did a 1 day event in August 424 426 Q500, where NEPRO donated the fuel, 100% of the entry fees, trophies and a free cookout at night. Club netted $600. It did guarantee us a date for next year.
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I'll be there.
426/422
Lonnie
426/422
Lonnie
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Re: Cliff Telford Memorial Tangerine 2021 "PLEASE READ ASAP"
"M" pulled the invoices,,,
2019 we had 29 Saty, 30 Sunday.
2020 we had 24 both days.
During lunch today,,, "M" made an interesting comment,, RC Clubs have yearly membership dues, most in the $100 per person range,,, SEMPRA has 10 current members from it's last membership drive,,, two of them us.

If SEMPRA had a greater pilot support, it could, potentially, do something similar to NEPRO




Finally,,, I would not count Daytona out!!! As I've stated repeatedly, there is just no place for them based on the current national calendar! At the Muncie August race, I think it was Robert Vess who said,,, Daytona would be a great place to have a December race,,, just because of the Name, if for no other reason,, no argument there!!!!!




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Terry Frazer 426-422 Ama 263
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EF-1, 426 and 422
EF-1, 426 and 422
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Linda and I will be there.
I will fly 426 and 422.
Bob
I will fly 426 and 422.
Bob
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I will be there. 426 and 422
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Work permitting we will be there.
Leo 426 & 422
Ola 424 both days
Leo 426 & 422
Ola 424 both days
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Robert Vess
426/422
426/422
Robert Vess
Raleigh, NC
Raleigh, NC